the less we have to do with the ukraine the better. EFP is tripwire forces (and not many of them ie only 3 Battlegroups in total) to prevent Russian incursions into Poland, Lithuania, Latvia or rather to reassue the peoples of those countries they are not going to affect the Russo-Ukraine situaution. Biden??? Most of these incidents were blamed by Iran on Israel. The finger of suspicion immediately fell on Russia, although Ukrainian officials said critical infrastructure had not been targeted. Social Media and Comment Moderation Policy, New British nuclear missile submarine reaches milestone, Despite funding concerns Type 32 Frigate still planned, European deployment successfully completed by Royal Navy, UK and US nuclear missile submarines send message to Russia, UK signs for Aster 30 Block 1 anti-ballistic missile weapons, Royal Navy seeking loitering munitions for ships, https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2022/01/us-sends-more-military-equipment-ukraine/361042/ , NATO battlegroup in Bulgaria reaches full capability, BBC announces new aircraft carrier documentary. There are plenty of other tough choices we need to make in order to solve climate change, I know but what really gets my goat, are the people who whi ge about C C then drive their kids to school, in those bloody 44 SUVs and the School is within walking distance. Agree but the Russians view is that any weapon in hand can be used against an enemy and therefore gets kept. However there is some good reports if you know where to look. LONDON, June 24 (Reuters) - Russia warned Britain on Thursday that it would bomb British naval vessels in the Black Sea if there were any further provocative actions by the British navy off the. ", READ MORE: Russian doctors urge Putin to 'stop abusing' Alexei Navalny, Maintaining maritime situational awareness is a core task for #NATO Standing Maritime Groups, in close coordination with Allies. Western military analysts have suggested Russia cannot keep such troops deployed where they are indefinitely for financial and logistical reasons and would need to pull them back by summer. Spot on post! All depends on how you define corruption but generally speaking most countries are corrupt at some or all levels us included. "Escorting the Russian task group alongside forces from our NATO allies has demonstrated the UKs commitment to the alliance and to maintaining maritime security. An interesting breakdown of Americas national debt. He wants to get some skin in the game like the West has had the past 20 years. In this second scenario NATO troops/aircraft dont even need to be in Ukraine thereby making it difficult for Putin to complain. Assassinations of nuclear experts. The US Coast Guard said Wednesday it is monitoring a Russian ship near Hawaii. Russian warships have been spotted off the British coast. SMs dont spend a lot of time having needless conversations with their controlling authority. In a call to Mr Lavrov, Mr Blinken 'stressed the importance of continuing a diplomatic path to de-escalate tensions'. That was due to the unusually large number of landing craft in the Baltic. That is the role of EFP troops in Poland and the Baltics show of support plus being a tripwire. 'We have information that indicates Russia has already pre-positioned a group of operatives to conduct a false flag operation in eastern Ukraine,' she said. Biden-BIG disappointment. Thats if of the few Astutes we have arent already chasing their own Oscars or Yasen. Erm, theres certain CO of a T23 on TV at the moment who disagrees with you not to mention Radakin hgiving HoC evidence, I havent see the show, so Ill take your word on it, Surely if Russia invades Ukraine theres gonna have to be big increases in defence and security spending were gonna have to reinforce all Eastern European alliance members for that matter any country world wide that feels threatened buy any powerful country, Hi Geordie, Youd think so. No Typhoons in Romania at present, but USAF F-15Es there. They keep Russia's options open and therefore keep the defender guessing,' said Keir Giles, an Associate Fellow at Chatham House. A Slava Class cruiser isnt going to be worried by any Wildcat, whilst ROEs mean that by the time Astutes have surfaced to receive comms the shooting has started and finished. Yes theyve probably done more to modernise than laggards such as Argentine or Germany, but in conventional terms the European members of NATO alone could militarily contain Russia without Americas help. More of your disinfo to correct here the US spends as much as the next 11 biggest spenders combined on defense nowadays not the rest of the world. A distraction for poor ratings at home possibly. "The Sun", "Sun", "Sun Online" are registered trademarks or trade names of News Group Newspapers Limited. Once there they re establish the picture. Yep 100%. This was of course totally unrelated to his dad, then VP, having a say on loan money going into Ukraine. Therefore in theory at least for the narrowest Dover-Calais area we could do that. Their Intel also saying that they see no particular problem. He said Moscow could try to seize Ukrainian coastal areas on the Sea of Azov, creating a land bridge from the Russian city of Rostov through Donbass to Crimea, adding: 'That would put the Ukrainian government under a lot of pressure.'. By 'We're now at a stage where Russia could at any point launch an attack in Ukraine, and what Secretary Blinken is going to go do is highlight very clearly there is a diplomatic path forward. Saying your putting your entire navy to sea simultaneously across every theatre you operate in is a bit of a red flag.. though considering the state of the Russian navy if even 25% of the ships leave harbour I will be surprised. Which could be read either way. Ties between London and Moscow have been on ice since the 2018 poisoning with a Soviet-developed nerve agent known as Novichok of ex-double agent Sergei Skripal, a mole who betrayed hundreds of Russian agents to Britain's MI6 foreign spy service. And therein lies the fate of the world!! "Even with the pressures of Covid, we remain at short notice to respond to threats both in home waters and around the world. Sean, Where is this wharf in Australia? There was the Orange revolution in Ukraine in 2004/5 that was the point that they started to orient themselves more with the West. 'Grateful for [US's] political & security support. This is why US UKRead more . Certainly Ivan is getting very desperate now with the prop.! faster working shipyards would help. I meant a small number combat troops postured to help the Ukranians defend themselves. "The Royal Navy will always uphold international law and will not accept unlawful interference with innocent passage," Wallace said. russian dockyards will need to build more tugs. Those deliveries are ongoing, and there are more scheduled in the coming weeks.. Should they choose to do so. As the region is already occupied by pro-Russian separatists, and has been in a state of war since 2014, it was believed it would offer little resistance. During the Cold War it became traditional to test the resolve of an incoming new American president with a manufactured crisis. By Sam Greenhill Chief Reporter for the Daily Mail. The RN has learned many lessons over the years, have a little faith. Type 23 frigate HMS Northumberland, based at Devonport, watched the movements of Udaloy-class destroyer the Vice-Admiral Kulakov as it sailed north-west of the Outer Hebrides. UK politicians have been cutting our forces (numerically) once or twice a decade since the end of the Korean War, ie over the last 70 years, not just the last 30 years. Im afraid Martlet wouldnt scratch the paint on a Kirov, whilst the Wildcat wouldnt get within range to launch kinetics before being eliminated by the Grumble. 5 Yes and who do you think gave them the green light. The US Coast Guard in Alaska came across Russian and Chinese vessels on an ordinary patrol earlier this month, the agency has said. Under international law of the sea, innocent passage permits a vessel to pass through another state's territorial waters so long as this does not affect its security. Not training troops. That calls a defense expert on the plan. Warships belonging to the Russian Northern Fleet have sailed through the English Channel in a routine and lawful passage through British waters. However, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said he may consider halting the pipeline if Moscow attacks. We all have opinions and may not always agree but nice to keep things civilised. Lets be honest, in hostilities, they wouldnt be sailing unescorted or going through the channel! Russia released footage filmed from a Russian SU-24 bomber flying close to the British ship. The reason they were happy to get rid was cost. the disaster of the BEF and lack of anti tank capability that was promised in the event of conflict, sadly never materialised. Er, US forces are in Poland and no doubt in the Ukraine. Id call it a battle group wholly equipped with obsolete AFVs. Will it damage to a ship? Ukraine is not a NATO country, therefore Article 5 will not be called and NATO will not fight. I think ill have a drink now. NOTAMs will clear seaways fast, whilst the Falklands demonstrated the potency of AsUW back then. ', After their meeting, State Department spokesman Ned Price warned the West was ready to impose 'crippling costs on Russias economy' if Putin chooses the path of 'further aggression.'. Bit long in the tooth-just like David, CR!(says he who is about to turn 73). The US Putting a small number of troops in Ukraine is a line in the sand a powerful symbol of intent to the Russians of repucussions if they invade. A capability upgrade as and when needed, might well happen. And in the Western Military District, a missile regiment armed with S-400 Triumf mobile, surface-to-air missile system conducted electronic launches at a range in Leningrad region. At least they didnt decimate their armed forces like the UK and most of its allies as a result of peace dividend at end of cold war. Historical animosity towards the Russians. Im all for countries determining their own choices, but I can see Putins concerns. Do you have a link on that drawdown, havent seen that comment before? Two weeks ago nearly a dozen warships and combat aircraft from Russias Northern, Baltic and Black Sea fleets gave a show of force in the waters off the British and Irish coasts General Sir Nick Carter has said. I really cant believe he wants to invade Ukraine. The jams at US West Coast ports have been due to the global supply chain being out of whack. Nuclear centrifuge assembly plants. Your posts are very aggressive. Similarly, the economic sanctions threatened by the US and the UK apply regardless of the scale of such action. I am very much older than 25 and I find her far more grown up than most actual grown ups. Could be a rerun of the 1904 Russian fleet of to the far East didnt go too well for them then but they did attack Traelers of dogger bank. The Royal Navy said it is tracking the frigate and the tanker movements with an HMS Portland frigate, as it could carry what is considered to be one of the world's deadliest weapons. He may lose power after a disastrous foreign adventure. Russian warships have been pictured off the coast of Britain, en route to a suspected bolstering of the bombing campaign on the besieged Syrian city Aleppo.. Royal Navy vessels were closely . The oil tanker Kama seems to have followed it, French media reported. This is possible by the combination of an imaging infrared (IIR) seeker and an onboard target database. The Russians are on drawdown but maintaining overwatch I understand. By teatime at least during the cold War the surface arm of the RN was given 7 days before lights out 6 days more than the RAF , only the Army faired better indefinitely if resupplied ? During its 2008 war with Georgia, Russia bristled at U.S. warships operating in the Black Sea, and in April the United States cancelled the deployment of two warships to the area. What is aerial refuelling and how does it work? @RoyalNavy ships @hms_tyne and @HMSDragon have escorted three Russian warships through the North Sea and English Channel as part of a unified response with allies. The Ropucha-class landing ship can transport 10 main battle tanks and 340 troops or 12 BTRs and 340 troops or 3 main battle tanks, 3 2S9 Nona-S, 5 MT-LBs, 4 army trucks and 313 troops or 500 tons of cargo. . I doubt you can stand at all given the amount of hallucinogens you must be partaking. The ships have included a surfaced submarine, a destroyer, a corvette and a patrol ship along with their supporting tugs and supply ships travelling in the English Channel, Celtic Sea and the West Coast of Scotland. Also most of that Russian buildup is into barracks so not suffering. Next time round-Hillary Clinton vsRead more , Grandpa Biden has been engaged with the Pentagon bigwigs and was informed that Troops had already been pulled out of Vietnam .Now have your 40 winks and Cocoa, You cant blame Trump for this. Its not a valid comparison in 2003 the Russian was in a post Yeltsin mess and in no way capable of acting as a deterrent to US forces. Leading to our militaries being optimised for fighting second rate foes. Europe? I agree that its a risk, but one which they appear to be content to manage.. Several Latvians were arrested when they returned from fighting in the Ukraine they had been on the Russian side! Like wise the Danse could blockade the Baltic as well. NSM in clear sea lanes, is perfectly suited to keeping enemy at arms length. The core of the Russian navy's Northern Fleet has been observed manoeuvring in and around Irish-controlled waters in recent days, ahead of planned live-fire drills. Sounds like we havent learned any lessons from history! Patrol ship HMS Severn was on duty in the English Channel and Dover Strait, where it shadowed a surfaced Kilo-class submarine, the Stary Oskol, the corvette Boikiy, patrol ship Vasiliy Bykov and support ships. It is very obvious where they are going, staring you right into your eyes!! Lots of disinformation out there I dont understand how Trump takes no blame on either side of the Atlantic for signing the peace deal with the Taliban of all groups but Biden blamed on this board with no push back. The stark warning comes after two rounds of last ditch talks between the West and Russia failed to de-escalate the conflict which has threatened to bubble over since late last year. US truckers are heavily non vaccinated. The most comprehensive solution to manage all your complex and ever-expanding tax and compliance needs. A source familiar with the Russian Defence Ministry's thinking said this was the most likely scenario if Moscow decided to attack, but that he was unaware of any such decision. He also works for the NHS. Pretty much what their President told them on the TV a couple of days ago. Find out more. But why would Russia deployed troops in Iraq 2003 to save Despot Sadams skin? I note that you seen to have accepted my comments on the US border debacle. At the end of the day it isnt going to be Britain v Russia, It will would be a NATO coalition. To see all content on The Sun, please use the Site Map. If the US had done this early enough the Russians would have back off. Britain disputed the Russian version of events, with Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab calling it "predictably inaccurate". Anti-air systems appear to be a weakness for Ukraine which might be something that the US should focusRead more . If Biden had the balls he could put a small contingent of US troops in Ukraine and dare Putin to attack. Its a game to stop NATO advancing further east, and a political statement. They are not a golden bullet. 'It is the choice of President Putin and the Russians to make, whether they are going to suffer severe economic consequences or not.'. Indeed you wouldnt need ships to eliminate those ducks as you wouldnt in the Dardanelles if they ever got in a pickle there either as Britain found out before the Gallipoli campaign became a hasty if equally ill fated alternative. Actually having checked further the major problem the USA/Canada are having are the same that most countries are. Oh, that would be Slovakia and Poland for example who have NATO aircraft from America not to mention eFP fighters in Lithuania, Estonia and Bulgaria. The Ropucha-class landing ship can transport 10 main battle tanks and 340 troops or 12 BTRs and 340 troops or 3 main battle tanks, 3 2S9 Nona-S, 5 MT-LBs, 4 army trucks and 313 troops or 500 tons of cargo. https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2018/02/chechen-military-police-return-syria-russia.html. You underestimate the Russian bear at your peril! Their fears of nuclear led them to basically willingly put puppet strings on a number of important decisions the country will have to make. F35 will be able to carry 8 of these missiles internally. Biden is standing up to Putin in every way logical. It has a much wider capture angle. With what? Well on your point about coming to Ukraines aid in any meaningful way, I would disagree to an extent. LOL Ivan you really are poster boy for Putin . This idiot wants Biden to start the war. Regime change? Screen for heightened risk individual and entities globally to help uncover hidden risks in business relationships and human networks. When people toured the Viktor Yanukovych presidential palace, they were shocked at the grandeurRead more , Step back guys, the roots of this situation lie decades ago. He then moves on to Berlin and will also hold talks with France and the UK. Really Ivan ? production rates are a worry. Putins Russia isnt anywhere nearly as big and powerful as the old Soviet military and couldnt go toe to toe with the US. My point still stands EFP is a deterrent/trip wire force to prevent Russia thinking she has an option to interfere in those countries. HMS Tyne, HMS Richmond and HMS Kent jointly escorted the same group of Russian ships as they operated in the Celtic Sea. Home of the Daily and Sunday Express. Xi has exactly the same problems internally in China and may be actually undetaking a modern genocide of the Uighur for which the Taiwan crisis is his distraction. But the latest intelligence now has Ministry of Defence chiefs worried about a much larger incursion, raising fears of warfare engulfing cities and high civilian death tolls. Your logic makes no sense. One of Russia's newest, most advanced warships - the Admiral Gorshkov - docked in Havana some 90 miles from the southern tip of Florida, amid Russia's warnings to the U.S. about deploying missiles near Russia, the Associated Press reported Monday. F35 will also receive SPEAR 3 which also has anti ship capability. it wont need much of a spark to set it all off. Normally theres maybe half a dozen ships of the coast of California waiting to be unloaded, last I heard it was over 70. Its what happens after Russia invades that know one is sure about. Again, your assessment that putting 2,000 US troops into Ukraine before the status quo has changed, would not have detered 100,000+ troops amassing on the border or the worldwideRead more . Perhaps all they want is a buffer zone with no NATO assets in sight? Turkeys first dedicated intelligence-gathering ship, TCGUfuk(A-591), was officially commissioned into service at Istanbul Shipyard in Tuzla, Istanbul, on 14 January, smail Demir, head of Turkeys Presidency of Defence Industries (SSB), has announced. The group of vessels, which remained in international. The assessment said Moscow had deployed troops to the border on a 'permanent' basis and said the movement of 'stockpiles of ammunition, field hospitals and security services' to the hinterlands confirmed 'the preparation for offensive operations'. 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Estonia is sending Javelin anti-armor missiles while Latvia and Lithuania are sending Stinger anti-aircraft missiles and related equipment, according to a Friday statement by the countries defense ministers. Heavily armed Russian-backed separatists have controlled a swath of eastern Ukraine since 2014 and continue to exchange fire with Ukrainian government forces despite a 2015 ceasefire that ended major hostilities. Iran if anything will be taking the opportunity to cause issues whilst US attention is firmly off the region. " Russian warship, go fuck yourself " [a] was the last communication made on 24 February 2022 during the Russian attack on Snake Island in Ukraine's territorial waters by border guard Roman Hrybov to the Russian missile cruiser Moskva. the Poles keep shtum about their involvement, unlike the Balts who declare it openly. It just shows the Ruskis have sleepers in the German armed forces. H I Sutton 15 Mar 2022. Test capabilities. To Decimate is as you put Dave 1 in 10 ,50% is half which is Dimidium, Cheers Tommo my googlefu is poor however, my google translate fu was non-existent , Over the last third of a century the pollies have dimidiumated the British Army . It would be a signal of intent to the Russians. Just do what I do and refer to wikipedia according to which the class was commissioned between 1975 and 1991. Look what we did to help France in WW1/2. Meanwhile, in the Black Sea, the Kasimov antisubmarine ship 'successfully destroyed' air and sea targets by artillery fire in storm conditions, in a naval exercise. What sonar or anti submarine equipment will t31 possess? It said about 50 BTGs were already in place to the north and east of Ukraine and in Crimea to the south. Russia has brought in new forces to Crimea, which it annexed from Ukraine in 2014.